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16 years 4 months ago #540
by Electric Flute
Replied by Electric Flute on topic Re:Question on Gamma 2.2
Jérôme: Well, each time I uncheck and check again Gamma Correction it takes time for the mini preview calculation. That's one of the reasons why I prefer to use sRGB button in VFB. You can always duplicate then without double gamma, since sRGB doesn't burn into the image. Please see my other post, It´s a wish to SR be compatible with sRGB. Is there a chance?
Onsnapcad: It seems Max Output Gamma is set to 2,2. (should be set to 1 in your case)
Onsnapcad: It seems Max Output Gamma is set to 2,2. (should be set to 1 in your case)
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16 years 4 months ago #541
by subburb
Replied by subburb on topic Re:Question on Gamma 2.2
hmm..
i'll try first to not re-render mini preview on SR \"gamma correction on/off\" checking/unchecking. Will test how it works like this.
It's complex because some users are using max vfb, and others Vray vfb...
The thing is that i can't manipulate Vray VFB Srgb button via Scripting.. i'll search on that point, but i'm pretty sure it is just not possible actually.
Anyway, I promise to find a way for your request;)
Any idea on how to handle simply this option ?
Srbg is approx like gamma 2.2, but actually, SR, at render time, apply a 1.0 gamma on Max gamma, and 2.2 on bitmap input gamma (and 2.2 on Vray colormapping gamma)
Perhaps would you prefer to specify by yourself the bitmap input gamma ?
i'll try first to not re-render mini preview on SR \"gamma correction on/off\" checking/unchecking. Will test how it works like this.
It's complex because some users are using max vfb, and others Vray vfb...
The thing is that i can't manipulate Vray VFB Srgb button via Scripting.. i'll search on that point, but i'm pretty sure it is just not possible actually.
Anyway, I promise to find a way for your request;)
Any idea on how to handle simply this option ?
Srbg is approx like gamma 2.2, but actually, SR, at render time, apply a 1.0 gamma on Max gamma, and 2.2 on bitmap input gamma (and 2.2 on Vray colormapping gamma)
Perhaps would you prefer to specify by yourself the bitmap input gamma ?
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16 years 4 months ago #542
by Electric Flute
Replied by Electric Flute on topic Re:Question on Gamma 2.2
I think it's very simple to handle it.
If user choose MFB - SR set gamma 2,2 in the color mapping. (like it is now)
If user choose VFB - SR doesn't change gamma in the color mapping and user use sRGB button.
The is no advantage to burn gamma 2,2 to the image. With the sRGB user can:
- duplicate framebuffers without double gamma
- little bit faster renders
- maintain in LWF for further post (After Effects...)
- to save HDR images user must mantain in LWF (no gamma burned)
Doesn't it make sense?
sRGB sRGB sRGB!!
If user choose MFB - SR set gamma 2,2 in the color mapping. (like it is now)
If user choose VFB - SR doesn't change gamma in the color mapping and user use sRGB button.
The is no advantage to burn gamma 2,2 to the image. With the sRGB user can:
- duplicate framebuffers without double gamma
- little bit faster renders
- maintain in LWF for further post (After Effects...)
- to save HDR images user must mantain in LWF (no gamma burned)
Doesn't it make sense?
sRGB sRGB sRGB!!
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16 years 4 months ago #543
by subburb
Replied by subburb on topic Re:Question on Gamma 2.2
ok, dude..
but you tip is only valable with gamma 2.2..
i think there is at least 2 advantages to burn gamma into image : less grain in dark areas(but little bit longer), and simple use for non-power users, or persons who are not familiar with gamma things...
I'll prepare Srgb option as you suggested. when early prevesion start to works, can i send you by mail some non public beta for testing ?
but you tip is only valable with gamma 2.2..
i think there is at least 2 advantages to burn gamma into image : less grain in dark areas(but little bit longer), and simple use for non-power users, or persons who are not familiar with gamma things...
I'll prepare Srgb option as you suggested. when early prevesion start to works, can i send you by mail some non public beta for testing ?
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16 years 4 months ago #544
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Replied by Electric Flute on topic Re:Question on Gamma 2.2
Yes, sRGB is for LWF, other gamma value is not a true LWF.
Ok, I had an idea to bypass this limitation:
Keep things how they are and just create a button called \"use sRGB\" in SR.
With this button checked, SR does not change gamma color mapping and let user check sRGB button in VFB.
yeah! that works for everbody! What do you think?
Yes, send me some non public beta for testing!
Ok, I had an idea to bypass this limitation:
Keep things how they are and just create a button called \"use sRGB\" in SR.
With this button checked, SR does not change gamma color mapping and let user check sRGB button in VFB.
yeah! that works for everbody! What do you think?
Yes, send me some non public beta for testing!
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16 years 4 months ago #547
by subburb
Replied by subburb on topic Re:Question on Gamma 2.2
i was thinking on the same thing.. lol.
precisions :
If user choose Srgb button in SR, then :
- gamma in color mapping is forced to 1.0
- User have to click on Srgb button in Vray VFB to complete the process.. right ?
- User is forced to use Vray VFB
- Gamma correction value is forced to 2.2 to avoid confusions.
- i'll try to avoid re-rendering of mini preview in this case.
ok to your eyes ?
Do you need (or someone else reading) a gamma bitmap input value selector, too ? (follow SR gamma or personnal value)
precisions :
If user choose Srgb button in SR, then :
- gamma in color mapping is forced to 1.0
- User have to click on Srgb button in Vray VFB to complete the process.. right ?
- User is forced to use Vray VFB
- Gamma correction value is forced to 2.2 to avoid confusions.
- i'll try to avoid re-rendering of mini preview in this case.
ok to your eyes ?
Do you need (or someone else reading) a gamma bitmap input value selector, too ? (follow SR gamma or personnal value)
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